Não acreditei, mas é verdade, eles estão de volta!
Não acreditei, mas é verdade, eles estão de volta!
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O original ainda manda bem.
Agora, esses aqui não sabem brincar...
O original manda muito bem mesmo!
Rapaz, fiquei impressionado como os uniformes e capacetes chilenos, até os estandartes são parecidos com os usados pela Wehrmacht e SS na guerra.
Será que o estilista é alemão? Algum Boss qualquer?!
Interessante. De onde será que vem essa tradição? Imagino que não seja dos nazis.
Abs, Ivan
Ivan P posted:Interessante. De onde será que vem essa tradição? Imagino que não seja dos nazis.
Felizmente não vem dos nazis, vem de muito antes. Do Wikipedia:
"Chile hired a French military training mission in 1858,[8]:129 and the Chilean legation in Berlin was instructed to find a training mission during the War of the Pacific in 1881. But large-scale emulation of the Prussian Army began in 1886 with the appointment of Captain Emil Körner, a graduate of the renowned Kriegsakademie in Berlin. Also appointed were 36 Prussian officers to train officer cadets in the Chilean Military Academy. The training occurred in three phases; the first took place from 1885 to 1891 during the presidency of Domingo Santa María, the second was the post-civil-war phase, and the third was the 1906 reorganization.[8]:128-
The emulation was focused in armaments, conscription, officer recruitment and instruction, and general staff organization as well as military doctrine (adopted 1906). It was extended also into military logistics and medical services, promotions, retirement, salary regulation and even uniforms (adopted 1904), marching styles, helmets, parades, and military music.
Officer education and training: The beginning of the German mission were dedicated almost exclusively to the organization and implementation of a standardized, technically oriented military education with the essence of Moltke's German military system of continuous study of artillery, infantry, cartography, history, topography, logistics, tactics, etc., for a modern, professional and technically trained officer corps. In 1886, the "Academia de Guerra" (War Academy) was founded "to elevate the level of technical and scientific instruction of army officers, in order that they be able, in case of war, to utilize the advantages of new methods of combat and new armaments." The best alumni were candidates for general staff service. By the mid-1890s Körner organized the courses for a Noncommissioned Officers' School (Escuela de Suboficiales y Clases).[8]:139
During the 1891 Chilean Civil War Körner was removed from duty by José Manuel Balmaceda. He and his followers set sail north to join the Congressional forces in Iquique. He became chief architect of the new army and, though Estanislao del Canto formally was commander-in-chief, Körner led the rebel forces in the major clashes of the civil war.[8]:145
Chile had had a General Staff during the War of the Pacific.[9] Körner turned his attention to a permanent institution in 1893-94 that should replace the old "Inspector General del Ejército", but with control over military affairs in peacetime and wartime. It had four sections: Instruction and Discipline, Military Schools, Scientific Works (strategic and operational planning), and Administration.
Rogerio77 posted:Ivan P posted:Interessante. De onde será que vem essa tradição? Imagino que não seja dos nazis.
Felizmente não vem dos nazis, vem de muito antes. Do Wikipedia:
"Chile hired a French military training mission in 1858,[8]:129 and the Chilean legation in Berlin was instructed to find a training mission during the War of the Pacific in 1881. But large-scale emulation of the Prussian Army began in 1886 with the appointment of Captain Emil Körner, a graduate of the renowned Kriegsakademie in Berlin. Also appointed were 36 Prussian officers to train officer cadets in the Chilean Military Academy. The training occurred in three phases; the first took place from 1885 to 1891 during the presidency of Domingo Santa María, the second was the post-civil-war phase, and the third was the 1906 reorganization.[8]:128-
The emulation was focused in armaments, conscription, officer recruitment and instruction, and general staff organization as well as military doctrine (adopted 1906). It was extended also into military logistics and medical services, promotions, retirement, salary regulation and even uniforms (adopted 1904), marching styles, helmets, parades, and military music.
Officer education and training: The beginning of the German mission were dedicated almost exclusively to the organization and implementation of a standardized, technically oriented military education with the essence of Moltke's German military system of continuous study of artillery, infantry, cartography, history, topography, logistics, tactics, etc., for a modern, professional and technically trained officer corps. In 1886, the "Academia de Guerra" (War Academy) was founded "to elevate the level of technical and scientific instruction of army officers, in order that they be able, in case of war, to utilize the advantages of new methods of combat and new armaments." The best alumni were candidates for general staff service. By the mid-1890s Körner organized the courses for a Noncommissioned Officers' School (Escuela de Suboficiales y Clases).[8]:139
During the 1891 Chilean Civil War Körner was removed from duty by José Manuel Balmaceda. He and his followers set sail north to join the Congressional forces in Iquique. He became chief architect of the new army and, though Estanislao del Canto formally was commander-in-chief, Körner led the rebel forces in the major clashes of the civil war.[8]:145
Chile had had a General Staff during the War of the Pacific.[9] Körner turned his attention to a permanent institution in 1893-94 that should replace the old "Inspector General del Ejército", but with control over military affairs in peacetime and wartime. It had four sections: Instruction and Discipline, Military Schools, Scientific Works (strategic and operational planning), and Administration.
Valeu!
Abs, Ivan
Não sou fã de soldadinho marchando,mas é comum ver que em alguns paises principalmente no leste europeu havia este tipo de parada e o passo de ganso,para marchar,O Chile ainda usa uniformes e capacetes semelhantes aos alemães como cerimonial,a Argentina na época do Peron chegou a usar os mesmos modelos de capacetes,até o Dark Vader usou . Em Tempo a empresa Boss não era estilista na Segunda guerra e sim uma empresa que costurava entre outras coisas uniformes militares.A maioria dos uniformes foram desenhados por um oficial das SS que não me lembro o nome agora,é dificil de achar informações mas se acha,na minha opinião a marca Boss foi emblemática pela filiação de seu fundador ao Partido Nacional Socialista dos Trabalhadores alemaes,exato PT alemão e ao uso de trabalho escravo,mas havia outras fabricas que costuravam uniformes e afins militares e outras empresas como VW,Mercedes sei lá.
Pelo que entendo então, legalmente o uso do capacete estilo alemão deixa de ser apologia ao nazismo, como são assim determinados esses símbolos no BR, pois no caso, o individuo (motoqueiros por exemplo) estará portando um capacete 'chileno'.....