Il-2 Sturmovik armamento- dúvida

Camarada Coronel!

Na maioria das missões, o IL-2 podia carregar todo o armamento citado, mas é bom confirmar qual a versão escolhida, se IL-2 ou IL-2M que por ter dois tripulantes tinha algumas diferenças de peso. Procure na Wiki ou em sites específicos (tambem na Scalemates que indica reviews).

Dasdivania!

João

Boa noite.

Desculpe-me postar diretamente da obra, sem traduzir mas acabei de chegar do trabalho e ao ver a sua pergunta, resolvi postar o abaixo:

BOMBAS

The single-seaters were at first limited to 882 lb (400 kg) of bombs; later the
maximum bomb load was increased to 1,333 lb (600 kg). At first the two-seaters
were limited to 661 lb (300 kg) but this was also later increased to a normal load of 882 lb (400 kg), with a maximum bomb load of 1,333 lb (600 kg). Gordon and
Komissarov state that the first two-seaters were limited to 661 lb (300 kg) of
bombs because of concerns regarding stress on the wooden wings. Whether this
bomb restriction also applied to the early metal-winged two-seaters is not clear.
The Il-2 could carry bombs in internal bomb bays located two per wing near the
wing roots, and in underwing mounts (using DER-31 bomb racks) under the bomb bay doors. The wing root bomb bays could each carry bombs of up to 220 lb (100kg) in size. The underwing bombs could be mounted even on aircraft that were carrying bombs in the wing root bomb bays. On rare occasions the Il-2 carried more than 1,333 lb; for example, late in the war, Shturmoviks were flown without rear gunners on some missions to enable them to carry more bombs, but the size of the bomb load was evidently not recorded. The largest bomb load carried by an Il-2 was 1,960 lb (889 kg) in a test, although I am not aware of this amount ever being carried into combat. One pilot carried some 1,600 lb (726 kg) of bombs into combat, but this was due to an error on the part of his loading crew.

In the early Il-2s, bombs were winched up into the bomb bays through small
panels in the upper wing. Later, larger panels, apparently first introduced in late
1941 or early 1942 allowed bombs to be loaded directly onto the top of the closed bomb bay doors. Bombs up to 33 lb (15 kg) could be loaded in this way, although larger bombs were still winched up into the bomb bays.

In addition to large bombs, the Il-2 often carried PTAB, anti-tank shape-charged
bomblets of around 5.5 lb (2.5 kg) apiece. The Il-2 carried 192 of them in its internal wing root bomb bays according to one source, although Dr Rastrenin states that up to 280 of these bomblets could be carried. These bomblets proved particularly effective against armour, even against heavily armoured tanks such as the Panther (Panzer Mk.V) and the Tiger (Panzer Mk.VI) tanks, as the tops of these tanks were not as heavily armoured as the front and sides. As mentioned above in the section on Kursk, their very first combat use was on the opening day of Operation Citadel, 5 July 1943.

FOGUETES

"All Il-2s, save some trainers and the 37-mm-armed two-seaters carried rockets under the wings. The single-seaters normally carried eight rockets, four per side, whereas the two-seaters normally carried four rockets, two per side. Initially the Il-2 was only equipped with the RS-82 rockets, the 82 referring to the diameter in millimetres. The rockets were carried on unstreamlined RO-82 rocket rails. Later the larger RS-132s, of 132 mm diameter, were also carried. It does not appear that mixed loads were carried, with both RS-82s and RS-132s on the same aircraft, probably due to the different ballistic trajectories of the rockets. The RS-82 and RS-132 rockets were armour-piercing projectiles, although they were supplemented from spring 1942 by the more effective armour-piercing RBS-82 and RBS-132 rockets. The ROFS-132 were also fitted, which were very powerful fragmentationtype rockets, and were longer than the RS-132s, although of the same diameter.
From later in 1942 M-8 (82 mm) and M-13 (132 mm) rockets were also fitted,
which were developments of the RS-82 and RS-132 rockets respectively.
As part of general efforts to better streamline the Il-2, some later straightwinged
two-seaters and most arrows carried streamlined rocket rails, as shown in
one of the photographs below."

O que depreende do texto é que sempre haviam foguetes na aeronave, e  as bombas iam de acordo com a missão.

Nessa montagem, o modelista, trabalhando num kit da Accurate Models, escala 1/48, mostra bem os trilhos duplos dos foguetes e as baias das bombas na raiz das asas dessa aeronave com assento duplo.

Espero ter ajudado.

Abs e boa montagem.

Muito bom Artemius

O artigo elucidou a dúvida. Havia esquecido de mencionar que o Il-2 que estou montando é o m2. Portanto, biplace com a asa em metal. Desta forma, a configuração podia levar tanto as bombas como os foguetes. 

Grato

Olá, sem querer gerar polêmica, mas o texto não deixa claro que o Il-2 levasse bombas e foguetes ao mesmo tempo nas missões

Olá, sem querer gerar polêmica, mas o texto não deixa claro que o Il-2 levasse bombas e foguetes ao mesmo tempo nas missões

Mas já gerando...

"All Il-2s, save some trainers and the 37-mm-armed two-seaters carried rockets under the wings."

A tradução

TODOS OS IL-2, SALVO ALGUNS AVIÕES DE TREINAMENTO E OS DE DOIS LUGARES ARMADOS COM 37MM CARREGAVAM FOGUETES SOB AS ASAS.

Mais claro... impossível.

Para mim também , Artemius .

Eu tenho um livro de memórias de um piloto de IL2 e o que ele diz confirma  que a rotina era: Lançar os misseis na primeira passagem, as bombas na segunda e usar as armas de bordo na terceira.

pois é... que diferença faz a FALTA DE UMA VIRGULA!!!

All Il-2s, save some trainers and the 37-mm-armed two-seaters (LOCAL ONDE DEVERIA EXISTIR UMA VÍRGULA) carried rockets under the wings.

se não houvesse intenção dop uso da virgula a frase ficaria melhor assim:

All Il-2s, include trainers and the 37-mm-armed two-seaters (LOCAL ONDE DEVERIA EXISTIR UMA VÍRGULA) carried rockets under the wings.

Com a bendita vírgula a frase ficaria "All Il-2s, save some trainers and the 37-mm-armed two-seaters ( , ) carried rockets under the wings."

e a tradução ficaria:

TODOS OS IL-2, SALVO ALGUNS AVIÕES DE TREINAMENTO E OS DE DOIS LUGARES ARMADOS COM 37MM , CARREGAVAM FOGUETES SOB AS ASAS.

Dai chegamos a conclusão de que TODOS EXCETO... mardita vírgula!!!

Pelo que li no SQUADRON a versão M poderia ser carregada com 4 foguetes RS-82 ou RS-132 ou mais tarde RBS 82 /132 e até quatro bombas sendo as mais usadas as PTAB de 2,5 pounds onde até 192 poderiam ser armazenadas em cada recipiente do tipo  KMB.

Valeu  Rezende pela pesquisa. ��